In the Beginning

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Description: Creationists argue from a scientific standpoint that the evidence all around us is consistent with a young earth and a creation by Divine Fiat in the relatively recent past. The implications are as interesting as the science.
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LTCJeffWhite ::: Favorites Peace and Friendship with whom? Who pressed for this clause and why? With whom were we dealing when we made this ridiculous pronouncement? Tripoli Barbary Powers (Muslim fanatics) is my recollection. And was the Federal govt made as a Christian nation? No. But was it a collection of Christian states, with tax supported churches? Yes. So you figure out what that means. 07-08-12 23:27:49 _____________________________________________________
LTCJeffWhite ::: Favorites "a watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest...we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven...I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments...than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare their unsatisfactoriness by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ." Madison to William Bradford, Sept 1773. 07-08-12 23:37:30 _____________________________________________________
LTCJeffWhite ::: Favorites Madison was a member of the committee that authored the 1776 Virginia Bill of Rights and approved of its clause declaring that: "It is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity toward each other." 07-08-12 23:39:03 _____________________________________________________
LTCJeffWhite ::: Favorites The Jews had a covenant with God - and had made clear their intention to follow Him, in worship - other nations did not, and were never slain for their mere refusal to acknowledge God - but for any number of other things in every case - making their children to pass through the fire, for example. 07-08-12 23:43:52 _____________________________________________________
UltraSWG ::: Favorites "What have you done than anyone might be free?" Uhm, served in the military? Just like you, I imagine? Still, you failed to show me one biblical teaching upon which this country was founded. That was the claim. So in essence, you are wrong. I wonder if you're man enough to just admit that. 07-08-13 07:38:55 _____________________________________________________
UltraSWG ::: Favorites "Why does my diploma from West Point say: In the year of Our Lord 1985 A.D.? What Lord began his Dominion born 2007 years ago?" By that logic we also worship pagan Gods since all our months and days of the week are named after them. I guess Saturn and Jupiter are our Lords, too. 07-08-13 07:41:15 _____________________________________________________
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UltraSWG ::: Favorites "THINKing demands logic, thoughtful questions, and conceptualization of alternatives to initial explanations" You're right, so why don't you do those things? You cling to doctrine first and foremost, and if science agrees, then you accept it. But any science that disagrees with your doctrine, you reject. That is not logical thought by anyone's standards. 07-08-13 07:43:53 _____________________________________________________
UltraSWG ::: Favorites "Even better - show me a moral code in the world since 1600 that you can prove was not influenced by Judeo-Christian ethics" That's easy - democracy. Democracy is not a value imparted by the Jews or Christians, yet we are fully aware that it is the best form of government. I know you are going to compartmentalize this because you can't explain it logically. God told the Jews what to wear, eat, grow - everything. You'd think he would suggest a good way to govern their society. 07-08-13 07:48:40 _____________________________________________________
UltraSWG ::: Favorites "They didn't simply question Moses, they murmured against him - talked behind his back - this was not budding democracy, but plain old illegal and illegitimate rebellion" So it's ok for leaders to kill those who talk behind their backs? See, this goes against American values. We value freedom of speech and the press. We value the ability to critisize and even ridicule our government. "Murmering" gets you killed? That's not right by anyone's measure. 07-08-13 08:00:36 _____________________________________________________
UltraSWG ::: Favorites Mk.16:17-18 "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." I'd like to hear your take on this. While you're reading, let me mix you up a nice Arsenic Martini. 07-08-13 08:09:52 _____________________________________________________